[organicreefer]

will it work?considering ive already drilled the sides of my oceanic overflows ,it better .im trying to conceal all the plumbing inside the boxes ,and this is something i thought of and did.i sure hope it works ill post some pics later.

[golfish]

I wouldn't suck water out of the overflow on a closed loop unless your able to keep the level high and have the holes drilled low (bubbles). Even then your going to be sucking a lot of water and most overflows can handle that much flow.

[organicreefer]

no golfish ,you misunderstood,i will suck water from the main tank ,the pipes are in the overflow check it out

[organicreefer]

a close up

[organicreefer]

the other side

[organicreefer]

you get a reflection of me as a bonus

[Ltspd]

Originally posted by organicreefer
you get a reflection of me as a bonus

Not much of a bonus

Yes, it will work provided as golfish said the water level is ABOVE this on BOTH sides. That way any pinholes wont suck air.

of course if you got a water level that low on the tank side you got problems

[organicreefer]

right on i think it will work too yes the water level inside the overflow will be above the intake as well,but i dont think it matters ive sealed the hole with rubber gaskets its water tightand it screws together(kind of a homemade bulkhead )

[organicreefer]

well golfish what do YOU think?i need more votes of confidence how come i havent seen this before,i hope its not cause it doesnt work
it should i think........

[golfish]

I guess it would work but I really don't understand why you did it this way. I don't see a difference having the bulkhead on the overflow or on the back of the tank other then having two more elbow. The bulkhead will show on the overflow or on the back glass. You need three elbows if the bulkhead is on the oveflow and you need only one elbow if its on the back glass. I guess I'm missing something

[organicreefer]

i would have had to drill glass to put it in the back wall,i only had to drill acrylic to do it this way .much easier,and much less nerve wracking.sheez,i thought it was a pretty good idea,and im happy no pipes 11/2 inch pipes in the tank

[DeathWish302]

organicreefer:

Nice job!!! Clean install, and i'm very impressed w/ your ability to limit drilling glass. I don't see why everyone thinks glass drilling is simply w/ time??? It's NOT!!! I have drilled my sump and getting ready for my lagoonal refugium and am dreading the thought of breaking (no pun intended) the bit out again. If you've just bought a new tank, i'd be leary of drilling w/ or w/o a diamond core bit as i have.

Not to flame, but

golfish:

How may tanks have you drilled??? With what bit??? Was it your new "prized" tank??? A few more elbows will decrease flow, but for certainty you'll have a tank w/o drilling i would feel is a far better feeling than the upset of a shattered tank. organic made something and feels proud to show it off, and would like some complements. Even if it's the worst design and you would never go about it that way, give the guy credit for trying. Without failures, we'd be technologically regressed greatly from today.

Once again organicreefer, good ingenuity. And golfish, not flaming just enlightening you on organics cry for approval.

DW302

[golfish]

DW302,
Like I said, " guess it would work but I really don't understand why you did it this way" And I still don't but if organicreefer wants to do it his way and it work then good for him. He's not one to listen to what I have to say anway I saw that he plans to use the Stockman overflow. The Stockman pipe needs to rise above the overflow unless you want to hear water crashing down. Its hard to tell from the pictures how much room he has so I don't really know if the Stockman overflow will fit with all the other pipes he has in there. I know it wouldn't work with my tank.

Once again organicreefer, good ingenuity. And golfish, not flaming just enlightening you on organics cry for approval.

I'm not one to approve or recommend anything unless I have done it. This way I KNOW it works....After Organic gets it working or not working he will be able to recommend this (or not) to somebody else. I'm not really sure why he wants my "vote of confidence" Its a done deal he already drilled the overflows. Organicreefer is not a dummy or a kid who needs my approval. He likes to do things his way. There's nothing wrong with that.


So sorry for not enlightening me.

[organicreefer]

dw,you cant talk to golfish like that ,wtf do you have some kind of death wish?j/k thanks for youre"vote of confindence".
golfish ,i dont understand what you dont get its pretty simple,and i explained it already.the stockman and return fits just fine as you said im not a dummy and i dont need youre approval.youre approval wasnt what i was looking for ,and it certainly wasnt a "cry for approval" .,but i was asking you for your opinion ,which i do respect beleive it or not.i think youre bitter about the abs thread just cause i didnt take youres or anyone elses word for it and checked for myself doesnt mean i dont respect anything you have to say.that was a case where everyone who gave me an answer,had knowledge based on hear say and it wasnt enough for me.anti bacterial chemicals in abs pipes i hope you archived that thread

[organicreefer]

dw,you cant talk to golfish like that ,wtf do you have some kind of death wish?j/k thanks for youre"vote of confindence".
golfish ,i dont understand what you dont get its pretty simple,and i explained it already.the stockman and return fits just fine as you said im not a dummy and i dont need youre approval.youre approval wasnt what i was looking for ,and it certainly wasnt a "cry for approval" .,but i was asking you for your opinion ,which i do respect beleive it or not.i think youre bitter about the abs thread just cause i didnt take youres or anyone elses word for it and checked for myself doesnt mean i dont respect anything you have to say.that was a case where everyone who gave me an answer,had knowledge based on hear say and it wasnt enough for me.anti bacterial chemicals in abs pipes i hope you archived that thread

[golfish]

My opinion was that "I guess it would work" There wasn't much more that I could say, was there? I'm not bitter about the ABS thread. I kept saying I hoped it would work, didn't I? Buying a bunch of fittings and gluing them together mean squat to me. After it runs for a year or so and you have no problems then I'll think about archiving that thread. I believe nothing I read and half of what I see. I'm here to learn and help people but I don't indorse (sp?) ideas that are not proven. Your a guy that like to do things your own way, that's good for us and the hobby. I say keep it up and let us know how things go. Hec, I want to swap out my gray pipe for ABS if it works.

I have setup many tanks in my 17 years in this hobby and have done more wrong things then right Ohhh I could tell you some stories There was that time (about 12 years ago) I thought I needed more flow at the bottom of the tank so I ran the flex line down to about 5" from the bottom of the tank. This was on a Magnum cantister filter and was also being used as one of my sump return pumps. Well you can only guess what happen when the power went out. I had no siphon breaks. To come home and see all the fish swimming in 5" of water. Its a good thing I had salt mix. Living in earthquake country you always have to have extra salt mix.

I can only give my opinoin on things I don't know about and you know what they say about opinions

I know you were not looking for my approval but there wasn't much more that I could say. I would have thought that when you orderd the tank you would have had it drilled for an extra bulkhead. I guess you didn't want to do it that way though.......


Mark

[organicreefer]

mark if i would have known before i ordered the tank ,i could have had it drilled,its definitley not that"i didnt want to do it that way".
the way i did it ,if it works(it should i think)is a GREAT option (imo)for anyone else who doesnt want pipes in their tank ,and doesnt want to drill glass .
as for the abs thing ,i cant beleive you still doubt it that thread really should be archived whether you personally beleive it or not.i put alot of effort into researching the subject,and i posted alot of info,it should be saved remember ,i also found alot of poeple already using abs in their reefs for years with no problems,including snailman(moderator on rc)and bluesman (one of our own members),and at least one other i posted in the thread.plus the emails from manufacturers (who have never heard of abs leaching ANYTHING)you can go ahead and switch youre pipes .
i love to do things "my way",use my "ingenuity" i dont just look at someone elses setup and copy it,i try to improve/add to what i learn and i definitely wouldnt use abs pipes if i wasnt 100% sure it was safe i aint mad at ya mark,i "know how you are" and you "know how i am" and we can still be "freinds" imo
patrick