Closed Loop on timer or runnin 24/7?

[scubadude]

I have 2 1" SS's driven by a AM3000 as my closed loop. Im curious if I should have this on a timer...maybe have it operating during the day when the lights are on...that way I can feed the tank 30min. before and 30min. after the SS's kik on? I would like to know you guys opinions and setups. I know some of them wave strips have a "Feed" button that will totally stop all the PH's and I have heard this to be very favorable!

[Ltspd]

My votes for 24/7

They never turn the ocean off

[golfish]

They never turn the ocean off

I agree with Paul, but then you already knew that;;

[scubadude]

LOL Golfish regardless of what you may think I value your opinion very much and it has an impact on my decisions! Just consider me playing the devils advocate at times. My wife pays the electric bill and water bill and I pay the morgtage and cable (for tv and my internet)...She is already complaining about the electric on my 90g and 20g....and now I have a 220g...but hopefully in a month or so I will have the two smaller ones sold and gone! So my predictament has alot to do with electrical savings too.....Im sure you and paul can appreciate that For sum reason I think my wife is gonna start putting the electrical bill on my Desk now

[Ltspd]

I guess I am lucky, my wife enjoys the tank enough to tell me we will try and cut elec usage in other places. Thats the whole reason behind the "new" lights, future new sump, etc, etc.......

[organicreefer]

scuba,the last time you brought this up i mentioned that i had read somewhere about the ocean being more calm at night ,im gonna try and find it because im interested in doing the same thing.

[golfish]

Scuba,
Just go down to the water at night and see if its calmer. I'm sure sometimes at night the water is calmer if and when the tide rolls in but that's probably due to the corals being in deeper water. I have been down to the ocean many times at night and its pretty much the same as it was during the day.

What did we figure? The AmpMaster cost about 12 bucks a months to run, is it worth 6 bucks a month to put your corals through a not so good 12 hours? None of my corals have ever liked calm water.

Mark

[organicreefer]

well ,ive looked and looked and i cant find where i read that seas are calmer at night,but last week i was fiddling with my wavemaster pro and noticed the night button;) i thought this has to be for less flow at night,so i sent red sea an email,they sent me an instruction manual(i bought it second hand)and sure enough the night button on the wavemaster pro is for a period of 8 hours of calm seas at night;)

im positive that where i read seas are calmer at night has nothing to do with the wavemaster,perhaps this is a question for dr ron at rc or something.

[scubadude]

Very interesting organic!

FWIW i have been running my closed loop 24/7...I want the current cuz of the temp issues....I think the extra current will help the temp a tad.

[organicreefer]

scuba,yes it is important to have good circulation at night,as photosynthesis stops and there is a higher demand for oxygen,its especially important at higher temps;)
i think that calmer seas at night has to do with lower temps,during the day the temp is higher on land and creates a strong in shore breeze,at night its warmer on the water creating a less strong offshore breeze,hence less water movement but this is just a theory .i want to find out for sure but ive done searches and i cant find anything,but i will and when i do ill let you know.

[Ironreef]

fwiw we can't mimic the current in the ocean anyway. it would take 480x turnover in a 100g to even come close. Who wrote that Shimek? Whoever its in the last AFM? I forget. I would keep the current. i stayed at the ocean for @1 mo.Pacific coast WA. Man you should see those waves at night. Tides come in/out. Seems pretty rough to me. I use to crab 24-7 for a mo.(Alaska) never noticed calmer seas at any special time. But that was in the open sea. But I don't see anything wrong with trying to save a few $$ but if it's only $6????....????

[organicreefer]

just checking out some controllers(shopping ) online and the digital ocean marine light-wave also is programmed for calm seas at night;) there must be a reason the commercial wavemakers are set up this way.

[Ironreef]

probally marketing. I use to fish every summer but that was Alaska not reefs. I never noticed any special time being calm day or night. The better weather= calmer days/nights cold rain = rough. I frequent the ocean in washington. Do alot of night clam digging/storm watch sometimes the water doesn't start to get rough until night time. But I never studied the waves or read on it much. The wave makers have a feed mode also. =marketing. IMO

[organicreefer]

no i beleive they must have some "science" behind it,and as i have stated a few times i read somewhere(i swear it was julian sprung ???) that on average seas are calmer at night,and i think it has something to do with cooler weather.i think i am gonna ask dr ron.

[Reinhold]

scubadude:

Think of the pods and fluorescent plankton you see swirling around the reef on a night dive. The movement is incredible, and it's even more noticeable at night because you can see the creatures being swept about in your dive light beam.

In straits between the mainland and islands, (i.e. Cozumel's western reefs,) the currents persist at 2-4 knots 24/7, and Coz has some of the best reefs in the world.

I'd keep it going 24 hours per day. Have your wife work extra hours to pay the electric bill.

[organicreefer]

Originally posted by Reinhold
scubadude:
Have your wife work extra hours to pay the electric bill.

excellent idea
i posted to r shimek,and he says that in the tropics ,seas are NOT calmer at night.but then ,some guy from the navy replied and ASSURES that seas are calmer at night ,even in the tropics
at this point im inclined to believe dr ron.