Comments on plumbing plan

wastedincome420 · 02-05-2002, 08:10 PM

I want to know what every thinks of this plan for plumbing my 105g tank. Now this pretty much just the behind the tank plumbing. But everything below the tank should be just a straight hook up.
Let me know wht you think

organicreefer · 02-05-2002, 10:54 PM

looks great

organicreefer · 02-05-2002, 10:58 PM

retracted my suggestion,you dont need anymore help it looks awesome

wastedincome420 · 02-05-2002, 11:00 PM

Do you mean 1 1/2" from the intakes to a 2" "Y" and then 2" down to the pump??

organicreefer · 02-05-2002, 11:03 PM

lol yeah thats what i meant,dolphin seems to stress "free flowing " plumbing,and thats just how i did it,might not make a difference,imnot sure.
but like i said ,you seem to know what youre doing........
its time for you to start handing out the advice

organicreefer · 02-05-2002, 11:07 PM

one last thing...like i originally said ,i still suggest the 1" sea swirls,they really arent that loud....this is strictly my opinion,and as long as youre using 1.5 all the way into them ,you probly wont lose too much.

organicreefer · 02-06-2002, 12:17 AM

the sea swirls are gonna give you all the surface agitation youll need,i would make the holes on the spay bar point down at alternateing angles

wastedincome420 · 02-06-2002, 07:27 AM

Good tip organic. Yes I plan to have the spray bar "spray" down a bit so I will get some good flow behind the rock pile

Ltspd · 02-06-2002, 10:32 AM

looks good

**scubadude** · 02-06-2002, 10:50 AM

The only thing thats missing is an Inline Cappuccino machine....hehe ....Seriously you have done some good planning there bud!

organicreefer · 02-06-2002, 11:14 AM

hmm was thinking...looks like you left out some unions.i would put a union right before each sea sirl so you can remove for maintanance.

Ltspd · 02-06-2002, 11:14 AM

I would use a double wye in place of the tee.

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**scubadude** · 02-06-2002, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ltspd
I would use a double wye in place of the tee.

You lost me paul! The only tee I see is the one for his spraybar...I think since the bar is inline w/the tee it would make it effecient? No?

**scubadude** · 02-06-2002, 11:29 AM

oh....I think I undersstand now Paul...you meant that it would sweep...not a direct blunt slam?

Rin · 02-06-2002, 12:50 PM

Very nice.

Paul has a good suggestion of Installing the double wye on the spraybar to reduce frictional losses.

Make sure to install a short piece of soft pipe between the PVC and the pump. It'll make things quieter and you won't have to worry about vibrations from the pump cracking your tank.

Also make sure that you measure your pipe lengths correctly so you don't put undue stress on those bulkheads. You don't want leaks through the bulkhead or take any chances on breaking the glass. *yikes* Short pieces of flex help, but they induce some pressure loss.

organicreefer · 02-06-2002, 01:46 PM

ok guys,im still confused on the double y

everybody seems to have got it but me.....................
if he connects the spray bar to a y wont it stick out at funny angles????
i think the spray bar should be made of 1 1/2 black abs ,and as flush to the wall as possible...if a y can be incorperated over the t im all for it but i just cant seem to visualize it??in the link i couldnt find a pic of said part either..

organicreefer · 02-06-2002, 02:29 PM

i was thinking.....you shouldnt even have the spray bar that high up,mid tank where it will me mostly concealed by the rock stucture might be better aesthetically,technically it does slightly increase head but not very much at all,and when it comes to the inside ,its time to start thinking aesthetics anyway,right

Ltspd · 02-06-2002, 03:31 PM

From Mcmaster

organicreefer · 02-06-2002, 03:34 PM

nice! its abs right?wasted you should use that instead of the double t thing.good find ltspd

wastedincome420 · 02-06-2002, 06:52 PM

Paul!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You found it

That means I wasn't seeing things

That is what I've been looking for!!Much Much better theb the Tee thing. Do you have any idea what the head might be on that?

Organic: The reasson I wanted to put the spray bar near the surface, is cause I would like to be able to keep "some" SPS and I heard that they need LOTS of flow

didn't think that the 2 SS's would be enough!?!
I do plan to use unions on the SS's and any where else I feel them needed.

Does flex pipe cause more head then ridgid pipe. I planed to run flex from the pump to the manifold then use mostly ridgid from there on

02-05-2002, 08:10 PM	#1
wastedincome420 Council Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NH Posts: 270	Comments on plumbing plan I want to know what every thinks of this plan for plumbing my 105g tank. Now this pretty much just the behind the tank plumbing. But everything below the tank should be just a straight hook up. Let me know wht you think

02-05-2002, 10:54 PM	#2
organicreefer Governor Join Date: May 2001 Location: Northern CA Posts: 2,171	BINGO! looks great

02-05-2002, 10:58 PM	#3
organicreefer Governor Join Date: May 2001 Location: Northern CA Posts: 2,171	retracted my suggestion,you dont need anymore help it looks awesome Last edited by organicreefer; 02-05-2002 at 11:01 PM.

02-06-2002, 12:17 AM	#7
organicreefer Governor Join Date: May 2001 Location: Northern CA Posts: 2,171	another suggestion the sea swirls are gonna give you all the surface agitation youll need,i would make the holes on the spay bar point down at alternateing angles

02-06-2002, 10:32 AM	#9
Ltspd Governor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Arden, NC USA Posts: 2,767	looks good __________________ Paul C Timing has an awful lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance. Last edited by Ltspd; 02-06-2002 at 10:44 AM.

02-05-2002, 11:00 PM	#4
wastedincome420 Council Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NH Posts: 270	Do you mean 1 1/2" from the intakes to a 2" "Y" and then 2" down to the pump??

02-05-2002, 11:03 PM	#5
organicreefer Governor Join Date: May 2001 Location: Northern CA Posts: 2,171	lol yeah thats what i meant,dolphin seems to stress "free flowing " plumbing,and thats just how i did it,might not make a difference,imnot sure. but like i said ,you seem to know what youre doing........ its time for you to start handing out the advice

02-05-2002, 11:07 PM	#6
organicreefer Governor Join Date: May 2001 Location: Northern CA Posts: 2,171	one last thing...like i originally said ,i still suggest the 1" sea swirls,they really arent that loud....this is strictly my opinion,and as long as youre using 1.5 all the way into them ,you probly wont lose too much.

02-06-2002, 07:27 AM	#8
wastedincome420 Council Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NH Posts: 270	Good tip organic. Yes I plan to have the spray bar "spray" down a bit so I will get some good flow behind the rock pile

02-06-2002, 10:50 AM	#10
scubadude Moderator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wichita, Kansas Posts: 5,253	Your Plumbing! The only thing thats missing is an Inline Cappuccino machine....hehe ....Seriously you have done some good planning there bud!

02-06-2002, 11:14 AM	#11
organicreefer Governor Join Date: May 2001 Location: Northern CA Posts: 2,171	hmm was thinking...looks like you left out some unions.i would put a union right before each sea sirl so you can remove for maintanance.

02-06-2002, 11:29 AM	#14
scubadude Moderator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wichita, Kansas Posts: 5,253	oh....I think I undersstand now Paul...you meant that it would sweep...not a direct blunt slam? __________________ Rocky

02-06-2002, 12:50 PM	#15
Rin Mayor Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Leesburg, GA Posts: 774	Very nice. Paul has a good suggestion of Installing the double wye on the spraybar to reduce frictional losses. Make sure to install a short piece of soft pipe between the PVC and the pump. It'll make things quieter and you won't have to worry about vibrations from the pump cracking your tank. Also make sure that you measure your pipe lengths correctly so you don't put undue stress on those bulkheads. You don't want leaks through the bulkhead or take any chances on breaking the glass. yikes Short pieces of flex help, but they induce some pressure loss. __________________ -Todd

02-06-2002, 01:46 PM	#16
organicreefer Governor Join Date: May 2001 Location: Northern CA Posts: 2,171	ok guys,im still confused on the double y everybody seems to have got it but me..................... if he connects the spray bar to a y wont it stick out at funny angles???? i think the spray bar should be made of 1 1/2 black abs ,and as flush to the wall as possible...if a y can be incorperated over the t im all for it but i just cant seem to visualize it??in the link i couldnt find a pic of said part either..

02-06-2002, 02:29 PM	#17
organicreefer Governor Join Date: May 2001 Location: Northern CA Posts: 2,171	i was thinking.....you shouldnt even have the spray bar that high up,mid tank where it will me mostly concealed by the rock stucture might be better aesthetically,technically it does slightly increase head but not very much at all,and when it comes to the inside ,its time to start thinking aesthetics anyway,right

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02-06-2002, 03:31 PM	#18
Ltspd Governor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Arden, NC USA Posts: 2,767	Here is the wye From Mcmaster __________________ Paul C Timing has an awful lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.

02-06-2002, 03:34 PM	#19
organicreefer Governor Join Date: May 2001 Location: Northern CA Posts: 2,171	nice! its abs right?wasted you should use that instead of the double t thing.good find ltspd

02-06-2002, 06:52 PM	#20
wastedincome420 Council Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NH Posts: 270	LTSPD you da man!!!!!! Paul!!!!!!!!!!!!! You found it That means I wasn't seeing things That is what I've been looking for!!Much Much better theb the Tee thing. Do you have any idea what the head might be on that? Organic: The reasson I wanted to put the spray bar near the surface, is cause I would like to be able to keep "some" SPS and I heard that they need LOTS of flow didn't think that the 2 SS's would be enough!?! I do plan to use unions on the SS's and any where else I feel them needed. Does flex pipe cause more head then ridgid pipe. I planed to run flex from the pump to the manifold then use mostly ridgid from there on

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