PM Bullet skimmers?any good?

wastedincome420 · 03-06-2002, 02:10 PM

Well some of you know I'm setiing up a 105g reef tank which will have a DSB in the main tank and in the 20-30g Refugium. I DO have two Berlin skimmers now (not turbo's) But have been thinking about starting it off right with a "good" skimmer.
I have read a few articals of the new PM "bullet" skimmer. It appears to be a very good system. Any of you have this skimmer?? What do you think of it??Also it seems that they need a powerful in-line pump to power it, How do have it plumbed??
Thanks for any input

Mark

**golfish** · 03-06-2002, 02:50 PM

Mark,
Its probably one of the best skimmers sold. It does need a big pump to run it tho....

You might want to check this link out http://www.myreefcreations.com/

wastedincome420 · 03-06-2002, 03:07 PM

Thanks golfish
I take it the MR-1 is soppose to be equal to the PM Bullet 1 right??
What type do you run?? I know that MYReef's skimmers are cheaper but which is better?? Also do you have to raise the skimmer up in the sump so that the ouput is above water level??

**golfish** · 03-06-2002, 03:40 PM

Mark,
From what I have read the MyReef skimmers are copied from the PM Bullet skimmers. I can't say much more because I have never used one. I'm sure you will be happy with either.

Medman · 03-06-2002, 08:40 PM

I have the PM Bullet-3 which is their large skimmer. I have it on my 125 gallon reef. You do need a large powerful pump to run it. They suggested that I could even use a Iwaki 70RLT!! I tried the 70RLT and it was just a little to large. I had to throttle down the pump to much. I like to run my pumps open as much as possible. I am now using a Iwaki 55RLT and that is just right. Mine is plumbed externally on my sump. The skimmate is a little "wet", but it always pulls out the nasty's. My skimmate is a dark tea color. Before this skimmer I had a ETSS Gemini 750 downdraft skimmer. I would say overall my results are about equal. Good luck.

Ironreef · 03-07-2002, 08:01 PM

A B1you can use a mag12. You can use smaller pumps but work better with large pumps. I use a B2 but my mak4 is a little to much pump. MYreef he make them so you can modify or upgrade at a cheaper price. Dunno which is made better. I like my B2

clown-fish · 03-08-2002, 08:19 PM

You want a top of the line skimmer, I sugest you try a Lifereef skimmer, you will not be dissapointed, and neither was I, to me and alot of others this IS the best non comercial skimmer on the market, quality and craftsmanship is superb, and it does a fantastic job, I use a VS3-36" kind of bit for my tank I have a 110gal reefready setup, with 5 fish one of them is a NasoTang which produces lots of waste especially the Naso which is a ravenous eater, this skimmer is good for up to 400-500gal tank, no need to upgrade the skimmer in the future once I get bigger tank, this skimmer is NOISLESS, efficient as hell "pulls out the darkest crap you will ever see, no fidling ever again with the gate valve once set at the level you prefer for you setup, less time playing with you skimmer and more time enjoying your tank,I would recommend this skimmer to anyone looking for a top quality skimmer, cya.

clown-fish · 03-08-2002, 08:20 PM

site is www.lifereef.com , cya and gl.

wastedincome420 · 03-08-2002, 09:12 PM

So whatcha pay for the life reef skimmer?? I would agree with the great workmanship I have a piece of a lifereef sump. The only thing that gets me is the PM's,MYreef, and few others ar egoing with the "beckett" injecter which seems to be the best

And after looking at the Lifereef skimmers none of his designs are useing it.

**golfish** · 03-08-2002, 10:26 PM

Mark,
Read this thread. This might have something to do with why Jeff at Lifereef doesn't want to use a Beckets head.

http://www.reefcentral.com/vbulletin...ghlight=MyReef

Ironreef · 03-08-2002, 11:07 PM

IME I've seen most skimmers. I prefered beckets over lifereef and euroreef. But they are all well built= PM,Eru and lifereef. Just i prefer becket skimmers. They all will suit your needs. They are a little better built than ets and aqua c skimmers IMO. Also i prefer clear cedar for my deck before redwood

To bad the link was closed. It's like anything else preferance when all being equal

myreef · 03-09-2002, 12:47 AM

Nevermind....Mark you have mail.

wastedincome420 · 03-09-2002, 01:14 AM

My Reef: I dont have any mail

Ive been waiting to see if you youd make a cameo in this thread....Whatcha go to add to this subject??
Mark

clown-fish · 03-09-2002, 08:51 AM

the skimmer ran me $450 with shipping, like I said it is a great skimmer, my tank sits in the living room, I used to have a ETS skimmer but it made tons of noise and was not as efficient as my Lifereef, the Lifereef is NOISELESS and is efficient as hell, why do you prefer beckett skimmers is there a reason for that, all skimmers do the same thing, the pull in air which mixes with the water which produces thousands of air bubbles in an enclosed chamber, which in effect pulls out scum from your tank, it's just that some are more efficient than others, to me this is the best piece of equipment that I ever bought for my tank, this skimmer will last me a very long time, it might be a bit on the pricey side, but like the saying goes you get what you pay for, I used to fall into the trap like many others trying to save a few dollars and in the long run spending more cause the product we bought was not efficient enough for the needed purpose, and eventually spending a few more dollars and getting the product you should have bought in the first place, originally I was looking at the lifereef skimmers but chose the ETS "less money and nice advertising", which was a big mistake and wasted money, it is sitting in my closet at the moment, so when I wanted to get another skimmer I did not even hesitate and ordered myself a Lifereef, it was the best decision I ever made, I have been in the hobby for quite some time, and this is the best skimmer out there, cya and gl.

clown-fish · 03-09-2002, 08:53 AM

$450 with a magdrive 1200

**golfish** · 03-09-2002, 09:17 AM

Mark,
I think Andy was referring to me

Andy,
Never mind, you have mail..............

myreef · 03-09-2002, 10:00 AM

Sorry wasted, I was referring to the other Mark (golfish) and sorry Mark, I got your mail...and I misinterpreted. My humble apologies!!

Sorry Wasted, I won't make skimmer recomendations or comment on them in public forums. I am kind of biased.

Ironreef · 03-09-2002, 12:23 PM

skimmers all mix air with water but the becket skimmers I've compared with others produce thicker foam imo. I've seen most skimmers in action and this was my choice. I've seen aerofoamer and euroreef side by side. IMO the foam was alot thicker. i saw lifereefs foam wasn't as thick =bubble. But euroreef and lifereef are quieter than becket skimmers. Lifereefs work better with large pumps also. So if I wanted quiet I would use euroreef. But they are limited to in sump= lifereef you can use out of sump in sump any pump = more options. Lifereef was my choice until i saw aerofoamers. But noise isn't an issue for me. They can make noise but not much IMO But like i've said earlier its all preferance I choose a bulit skimmer cuz at the time I wasn't getting good service from the person selling aerofoamers so it ticked me off. Beckets make anything foam thats why they are called pond foamers. But then again alot of ppl go skimmerless so why even have one

theres many choices. The post was on Bullet skimmers yes they are well built.

Northman_with_reef · 03-09-2002, 03:06 PM

I'm with Deltec...
needlewheel skimmer and it KICKS ASS.know a dude wos been in the hobby for 20yrs hes gone through about 40 different skimmers, european, American etc.

All i can say is: He's been using Deltec for 5years..

03-06-2002, 02:10 PM	#1
wastedincome420 Council Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NH Posts: 270	PM Bullet skimmers?any good? Well some of you know I'm setiing up a 105g reef tank which will have a DSB in the main tank and in the 20-30g Refugium. I DO have two Berlin skimmers now (not turbo's) But have been thinking about starting it off right with a "good" skimmer. I have read a few articals of the new PM "bullet" skimmer. It appears to be a very good system. Any of you have this skimmer?? What do you think of it??Also it seems that they need a powerful in-line pump to power it, How do have it plumbed?? Thanks for any input Mark

03-06-2002, 08:40 PM	#5
Medman Council Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Edina, MN USA Posts: 382	I have the PM Bullet-3 which is their large skimmer. I have it on my 125 gallon reef. You do need a large powerful pump to run it. They suggested that I could even use a Iwaki 70RLT!! I tried the 70RLT and it was just a little to large. I had to throttle down the pump to much. I like to run my pumps open as much as possible. I am now using a Iwaki 55RLT and that is just right. Mine is plumbed externally on my sump. The skimmate is a little "wet", but it always pulls out the nasty's. My skimmate is a dark tea color. Before this skimmer I had a ETSS Gemini 750 downdraft skimmer. I would say overall my results are about equal. Good luck. __________________ A Fool and his Money are Soon Parted

03-09-2002, 12:47 AM	#12
myreef Council Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Lawrenceville, GA, USA Posts: 373	Nevermind....Mark you have mail. __________________ Andy MyReef Creations andy@myreefcreations.com Last edited by myreef; 03-09-2002 at 12:57 AM.

03-09-2002, 10:00 AM	#17
myreef Council Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Lawrenceville, GA, USA Posts: 373	Sorry wasted, I was referring to the other Mark (golfish) and sorry Mark, I got your mail...and I misinterpreted. My humble apologies!! Sorry Wasted, I won't make skimmer recomendations or comment on them in public forums. I am kind of biased. __________________ Andy MyReef Creations andy@myreefcreations.com

03-09-2002, 03:06 PM	#19
Northman_with_reef Stonehammer Productions ™ Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Norway(Scandinavia) Posts: 461	I'm with Deltec... needlewheel skimmer and it KICKS ASS.know a dude wos been in the hobby for 20yrs hes gone through about 40 different skimmers, european, American etc. All i can say is: He's been using Deltec for 5years.. __________________ They said aquariums would be relaxing......(yeah right) Saltvannsforum My LFS

03-06-2002, 02:50 PM	#2
golfish Moderator Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Alta Loma,Ca Posts: 2,925	Mark, Its probably one of the best skimmers sold. It does need a big pump to run it tho.... You might want to check this link out http://www.myreefcreations.com/

03-06-2002, 03:07 PM	#3
wastedincome420 Council Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NH Posts: 270	Thanks golfish I take it the MR-1 is soppose to be equal to the PM Bullet 1 right?? What type do you run?? I know that MYReef's skimmers are cheaper but which is better?? Also do you have to raise the skimmer up in the sump so that the ouput is above water level??

03-06-2002, 03:40 PM	#4
golfish Moderator Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Alta Loma,Ca Posts: 2,925	Mark, From what I have read the MyReef skimmers are copied from the PM Bullet skimmers. I can't say much more because I have never used one. I'm sure you will be happy with either.

03-07-2002, 08:01 PM	#6
Ironreef Governor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Pacific WA Posts: 1,220	A B1you can use a mag12. You can use smaller pumps but work better with large pumps. I use a B2 but my mak4 is a little to much pump. MYreef he make them so you can modify or upgrade at a cheaper price. Dunno which is made better. I like my B2

03-08-2002, 08:19 PM	#7
clown-fish Just Moved In Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: brooklyn, new york, usa Posts: 43	You want a top of the line skimmer, I sugest you try a Lifereef skimmer, you will not be dissapointed, and neither was I, to me and alot of others this IS the best non comercial skimmer on the market, quality and craftsmanship is superb, and it does a fantastic job, I use a VS3-36" kind of bit for my tank I have a 110gal reefready setup, with 5 fish one of them is a NasoTang which produces lots of waste especially the Naso which is a ravenous eater, this skimmer is good for up to 400-500gal tank, no need to upgrade the skimmer in the future once I get bigger tank, this skimmer is NOISLESS, efficient as hell "pulls out the darkest crap you will ever see, no fidling ever again with the gate valve once set at the level you prefer for you setup, less time playing with you skimmer and more time enjoying your tank,I would recommend this skimmer to anyone looking for a top quality skimmer, cya.

03-08-2002, 08:20 PM	#8
clown-fish Just Moved In Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: brooklyn, new york, usa Posts: 43	site is www.lifereef.com , cya and gl.

03-08-2002, 09:12 PM	#9
wastedincome420 Council Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NH Posts: 270	So whatcha pay for the life reef skimmer?? I would agree with the great workmanship I have a piece of a lifereef sump. The only thing that gets me is the PM's,MYreef, and few others ar egoing with the "beckett" injecter which seems to be the best And after looking at the Lifereef skimmers none of his designs are useing it.

03-08-2002, 10:26 PM	#10
golfish Moderator Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Alta Loma,Ca Posts: 2,925	Mark, Read this thread. This might have something to do with why Jeff at Lifereef doesn't want to use a Beckets head. http://www.reefcentral.com/vbulletin...ghlight=MyReef

03-08-2002, 11:07 PM	#11
Ironreef Governor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Pacific WA Posts: 1,220	IME I've seen most skimmers. I prefered beckets over lifereef and euroreef. But they are all well built= PM,Eru and lifereef. Just i prefer becket skimmers. They all will suit your needs. They are a little better built than ets and aqua c skimmers IMO. Also i prefer clear cedar for my deck before redwood To bad the link was closed. It's like anything else preferance when all being equal

03-09-2002, 01:14 AM	#13
wastedincome420 Council Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NH Posts: 270	My Reef: I dont have any mail Ive been waiting to see if you youd make a cameo in this thread....Whatcha go to add to this subject?? Mark

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03-09-2002, 08:51 AM	#14
clown-fish Just Moved In Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: brooklyn, new york, usa Posts: 43	the skimmer ran me $450 with shipping, like I said it is a great skimmer, my tank sits in the living room, I used to have a ETS skimmer but it made tons of noise and was not as efficient as my Lifereef, the Lifereef is NOISELESS and is efficient as hell, why do you prefer beckett skimmers is there a reason for that, all skimmers do the same thing, the pull in air which mixes with the water which produces thousands of air bubbles in an enclosed chamber, which in effect pulls out scum from your tank, it's just that some are more efficient than others, to me this is the best piece of equipment that I ever bought for my tank, this skimmer will last me a very long time, it might be a bit on the pricey side, but like the saying goes you get what you pay for, I used to fall into the trap like many others trying to save a few dollars and in the long run spending more cause the product we bought was not efficient enough for the needed purpose, and eventually spending a few more dollars and getting the product you should have bought in the first place, originally I was looking at the lifereef skimmers but chose the ETS "less money and nice advertising", which was a big mistake and wasted money, it is sitting in my closet at the moment, so when I wanted to get another skimmer I did not even hesitate and ordered myself a Lifereef, it was the best decision I ever made, I have been in the hobby for quite some time, and this is the best skimmer out there, cya and gl.

03-09-2002, 08:53 AM	#15
clown-fish Just Moved In Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: brooklyn, new york, usa Posts: 43	$450 with a magdrive 1200

03-09-2002, 09:17 AM	#16
golfish Moderator Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Alta Loma,Ca Posts: 2,925	Mark, I think Andy was referring to me Andy, Never mind, you have mail..............

03-09-2002, 12:23 PM	#18
Ironreef Governor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Pacific WA Posts: 1,220	skimmers all mix air with water but the becket skimmers I've compared with others produce thicker foam imo. I've seen most skimmers in action and this was my choice. I've seen aerofoamer and euroreef side by side. IMO the foam was alot thicker. i saw lifereefs foam wasn't as thick =bubble. But euroreef and lifereef are quieter than becket skimmers. Lifereefs work better with large pumps also. So if I wanted quiet I would use euroreef. But they are limited to in sump= lifereef you can use out of sump in sump any pump = more options. Lifereef was my choice until i saw aerofoamers. But noise isn't an issue for me. They can make noise but not much IMO But like i've said earlier its all preferance I choose a bulit skimmer cuz at the time I wasn't getting good service from the person selling aerofoamers so it ticked me off. Beckets make anything foam thats why they are called pond foamers. But then again alot of ppl go skimmerless so why even have one theres many choices. The post was on Bullet skimmers yes they are well built.

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